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Type it in. We discuss his books, with the most popular being Why Protestant Bibles Are Smaller, and well as leading Bible studies in his home. Trent made the comment about the word until thats used in Second Samuel, but it uses the word [Greek 00:37:31], not [Greek 00:37:31]. The first man Adam is from the earth, earthy. If it was an eyewitness account, I suppose someone would had to have been informed about that. Steve Christie also has his own website. If Mary kept the law, she could not be made righteous since righteousness does not come from keeping the law, but through Christs death. He had cancer and heart disease. While scripturally affirming Jesus is the son of God, they contradict scripture by claiming that Jesus is Michael the archangel, because scripture affirms Michael is a created being while Jesus is the eternal deity. Well, the relevance is the fact that the word adelphos for brother, the primary meaning means a biological sibling, so unless theres a reason in the context of [inaudible 01:13:28]. By utilizing electric acoustic guitar and digitally recorded performance tracks with the technology of digital harmony Steve performs your favorite hits, "flawlessly". I mean, aside from the dogmas, I think one of the ones that make me cringe is that Catholics worship Mary, where every time I hear that, Im like And I brought it up, but I explained I came about it through a different way. No. Okay, you can start now. Since I dont believe in the unbiblical doctrine of sola scriptura, I dont have to prove these dogmas from scripture alone. It has all the free resources including the Study Guide to his first book, all his Bible studies, and his contact info: http://vernisage.us/stevechristie/ Steve Christie has also appeared on the Third Man Podcast: Steve Christie has written several books: And I showed counter examples to that in each of those cases. Where in the Bible is the Greek word adelphos used to describe siblings having the same mother but different fathers. I would love to have Augustine or Aquinas come down to my parish and give a talk or be a pastor there. Look, weve got 737 people watching and only 492 likes. Make an Appointment So then the word adelphos could also apply in this case to describe people that they have the same adoptive father, Joseph, but different mothers, Josephs first wife and his second wife. The fact that this is used of Mary is very unusual. Now in the Septuagint as well as in the New Testament, adelphos is used to talk about people who have the same father but different mothers. All right. Sure. Rather, biblically the church is every individual sinner who God has redeemed out of the world to be a slave to our master and Lord Jesus Christ, every individual sinner. The 33-yard field goal came with just :35 to play, giving the Bills a win over the Titans, who had knocked them out of the playoffs the year before. And in this case, infallibility would only cover the definition that Mary was conceived free from original sin and free from sin her entire life. When the Bible talks about all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, as I mentioned in my opening statement, its a Greek word pas, which means, everyone, which would include Mary. Does the Authorial Model have a Fictitious Problem? And Ill leave it at that. The fact that Mary died does not show that she had original sin or that she inherited original sin or that she committed a personal sin. After Marys days of purification were completed in Luke two, she made burnt and sin offerings, which according to Leviticus 12 was required of mothers to make atonement or to cover their sins, which Mary would not need to do if she were immaculately conceived. Oh, wow. Psalm 130, verse eight, promises God will redeem Israel from all its iniquities. The wrongs I have done are not hidden from me.. Some rabbis opposed the scriptural status of six booksRuth, Esther, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solo-mon, and Ezekiel. Or Steve could show Bible teaches the opposite of these dogmas in regard to every single human being without exception, which would include Mary. Which church father would you want to preach at your church? Jesus Christ did not inherit original sin, but he became sin which is why the father had to turn away from him. Book now for free with CMG Booking. So again, weve gone through a lot of scripture here, but none of them stick and show that the Marian Dogmas are contradicted by the Bible in any way. Christie also claims Jesus reference to the Pharisee Nicodemus as the teacher of Israel (John 3:10) meant the Pharisees had unique teaching authority over other Jews. As I mentioned in my book, the case for Catholicism Pauls letter to the Thessalonians, he talks about the force restraining the man of lawlessness. And the other concern, again, that I have is from Lumen Gentium, which is a Dogmatic Constitution of the Church, that it is binding to Catholics that even if a Roman pontiff does not speak ex cathedra, it is binding. Please try again later. I bet maybe you would kneel before it in prayer, you would weep to see that through this means our salvation was procured. So our listeners can go there to read that. And he went on to say that Muslims and Christians worship the same God when in fact they dont because the Christian God is Jesus and the Muslim God is Allah, and is not Jesus. My first book is about not really of us, why do children of Christian parents abandon the faith? Check out our newest Lake Effect team. Im not sure what your question is. This means Mary was earthy like Adam, before she was heavenly once Jesus redeemed and delivered her. Your view is that the word adelphos, what it means in the brethren is that its talking about Jesus and siblings, they have the same mother but they have different fathers. Christie is currently President of Relative Goal Sports and Entertainment Management LLC., certified as a Canadian Football League contract advisor and has represented numerous musical acts in both the United States and Scotland. Trent had mentioned about the age of accountability. Well, again, this is the exception. So then if Jesus was referred to as the carpenters son, and its a patronym, would this eliminate his brothers being older stepbrothers, according to the Protoevangelium of James? So thats also a bad argument. Enoch and Elijah would be an example. And again, in Sirach chapter 18, I think its verse 17 in the Septuagint uses this same Greek word, but in the masculine to refer to man being full of grace as [inaudible 01:21:46] and obviously Trent and I would agree that it doesnt mean that way. But Mary only had a human nature and a sinful nature. The Isaiah 7:14 prophecy only indicates that Mary was to remain a virgin during her pregnancy and up to the Messiahs birth., The NAB continues, The evangelist is simply concerned to emphasize that Joseph was not responsible for the conception of Jesus, which is why Matthew stresses the child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. Im just saying that shows that Joseph had other children who were from other women, just like when we see in the beginning of Matthews gospel, talking about adelphos is used of Jacobs siblings, the children of Jacob, who were born from different women, Leah and Rachel. So here, Mary can be talking about salvation from threats in this life, not sin. Youre talking about giving someone salvation prior to their sins? Because if you look in Strongs Greek Exhaustive Concordance and how it is used in the New Testament, which is what the debate is about not extra biblical work, it is used consistently and only to describe biological siblings. . So were not talking about translations of the Bible. So it still fits semantically. The Protoevangelium of James does talk about Mary being very mature for her age, walking at an early age, for example, and being precocious. You have seven-, All right. What we can find in the writings of the Church Fathers, however, are hundreds of citations of the deuterocanonical books as inspired Scripture. Also death is not a sign of being a sinner, as Steve alluded to earlier. But I mean, some of the early ones, Id probably Definitely not Judas Iscariot. Just a shameless plug, like I said, Im an author of two books. Because I believe that, I think Steve would agree, baptism is at least an ordinance we ought to carry out. Can a conclusion be infallible if the underlying logic is false? Dont have the context of this question. And weve also addressed that frequently at catholic.com. It is fitting, therefore its true. I have two chapters on it in my book, The Case for Catholicism. It only states that Jesus was an exception to this because he had a divine nature, not a sinful nature, as well as a human nature. Yeah. Heres my thought on that. Did they believe that the doctrine of Marys perpetual virginity violated the authority of scripture? Were going to be taking those questions. Though I will say, as were going through them, I feel like Steves case is sort of like that tree in front of my house is a bush Im always trying to get just right, but they end up clipping so many parts off of it, its just a bunch of empty branches sitting there. Im not sure that that is in Genesis 19:9. And we can actually discern from others passages in scripture that Jesus brothers are his biological younger half siblings. Thank you very much. I already have. Yep. And Steve has said, Well, we know theres an exception because the Bible says that Jesus is the exception. So clearly, then, that means the Bible can make universal statements, but sources of divine revelation can give us those exceptions. The resolution for this debate is the Marian Dogmas contradict scripture. I was citing Baukham on that point, and [Greek 00:52:31] is just not used in the New Testament, so its just not a common word. Jude 9 talks about the archangel, Michael, contending with the devil disputing about the body of Moses and taking the body of Moses, the dead body of Moses, that being assumed into heaven. Matthew 18:17 says, Jesus says, If a person who sins against you refuses to listen to you or two or three witnesses, tell it to the church. And it seems to envision the church as having some kind of authoritative structure and not simply as the invisible bond between all believers. If she is not righteous, then Jesus did not redeem her and she is still dead in her trespasses and sins. That has not been handed down to us but that she was assumed in heaven was even though [inaudible 01:06:39]. Geoffrey Stephen "Steve" Christie (born November 13, 1967) is a former Canadian American football placekicker in the National Football League, who, as a member Steve Christie - Top podcast episodes On the one hand he could show the Bible teaches the opposite of these dogmas regarding Mary as an individual. And again, just to give an example in the Septuagint, in the Book of Sirach, which is inspired for Trent, but its not inspired for me, it uses the Greek word [Greek 00:47:52], which is a masculine form of [Greek 00:47:55] when it says, Hail Mary, full of grace. And its used to describe a man who is full of grace. When Mary says My soul magnifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God, my savior. This doesnt prove that Mary committed a sin. It does not show that. I would stress that we look at what the church teaches in its magisterial teachings about Mary and her important role in salvation. This is an example called eisegesis of Scripture. Yes, and Christie admits they did, though he thinks we can discern which Jews had the correct canon of Scripture. He says, of Jacob and Esau in Rebeccas womb, they were not yet born and had done nothing, either good or bad.This means children who die in early childhood represent millions of examples of people who never committed a personal sin in their entire lives. Instead, we should listen to Christ, his apostles, and the Church they founded for the answer to what constitutes Sacred Scripture. Then theres going to be a time of cross-examination, and then were going to do 30 minutes of Q&A. All right, Steve, whenever you begin, I Actually, just give me one second. Im throwing you a bone here. I agree with what that person teaches. And you, just so people are aware, arent being mean or anything by doing that. Here we go. Good to hear from you again. I do. Steve will point to Jesus in sacred scripture. And they did not want people following them. We have to remember that. So lets take a look at them. Yes. If this verse in Psalm 69 is applied non-literally to Jesus, the verse that talks about, My mothers sons, can also be applied in a non-literal way. Thats why Protestant scholars since the nineteenth century have taken the position Herbet Ryle did in saying the legend about the Great Synagogue was wholly untrustworthy., Christie also cites Geoghan and Homess book The Bible for Dummies in favor of the Great Synagogue, but on page 11 the authors make no mention of the Great Synagogue or of Ezras canon being identical to todays Protestant Old Testament. So summarize, the Bible does not teach that Mary sin nor does it teach that every single human being has committed a sin or inherited original sin without exception. Born I have also appeared several Who was the first person you could say, Yeah, thats my theology. Gordon Clark - Christian philosopher, apologist, and theologian. But those who knew the family, why he is called the son of Mary is interesting, and a good explanation is that he was born of Mary, and that Mary was Josephs second wife. He might bring it up in his rebuttal. If righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died needlessly. Galatians 2:21. Sure. We receive no funding from the institutional Church and rely entirely on your generosity to sustain this website with trustworthy, accessible content. I think it might be best if I just go back and forth, so like one question for Steve and he answers, then Ill do a question for Trent. By contrast, some quoted Sirach as a book of Scripture, though it was eventually excluded. I run morning podcasts here on locals. They shall mourn for him as one mourns for an only child and weep bitterly over him as one weeps over a firstborn. So the terms can both be used in interchangeably in that respect. But when the Bible talks about a firmament, that talks about an ancient, incorrect view of the heavens. First Corinthians chapter seven, again, it says, For a season in order to separate, but then it says, So that you go back, married couples to go back so you do not get tempted by Satan because of your lack of self-control. Otherwise things leading up to it, we could interpret them either in a broader sense. Rather, this counterfeit Mary developed over several centuries based on false typologies, which conflict with Scripture, no different than what Mormons, Jehovahs Witnesses, and Muslims have done with Jesus. Mary had this early body. Give me a second here. Ive addressed some of them, but Ill address those other points hes brought up in my next rebuttal period. After all Ive done for you, and you just sit there, you watch this, you dont click that thumbs up button. And so if it doesnt contradict scripture, then it should be an issue between Catholics and Protestants of secondary importance, much like how people disagree about infant baptism. If your unbaptized baby dies, and theyre not baptized, guess what? Well, first of all, I would say that I disagree with Trent as a Catholic as how you define the word church, that in Roman Catholicism church is defined specifically as the Pope of the magisterium, and then when you get baptized in the church, you become part of that. EDWARD D. ANDREWS (AS in Criminal Justice, BS in Religion, MA in Biblical Studies, and MDiv in Theology) is CEO and President of Christian Publishing House. As 1 Timothy 3:15 says, the pillar and foundation of truth. He became sin for us. So in the Septuagint, Genesis 19:9, Lots daughters use the same Greek word, I know not man. So were they engaged in a vow of perpetual virginity? So maybe you could focus on the other three, which obviously you disagree with all these three Marion dogmas, but which do you think would be the easiest for you to get on board with? We are going to be moving into a time of cross-examination where each debater will get 10 minutes each. So if Andrew is Jonahs son, too, because Andrew is the brother of Peter, then why cant James, the brother of Jesus, also be the son of Mary? And the issue too, is it discusses the word ipsum as opposed to ipsa, when it says from Genesis 15, if she will bruise the heel, or his heel will be versed, however its actually worded. A person could be a Protestant, because we have to understand what a Protestant is and we have to go back to the Reformation for it. So they probably were aware of something very special about her at that time. It follows that Mary is the mother of God. He says, Jesus words would have sounded exactly the same if the narrative of Zechariahs death had occurred in the book of Kings or in the Psalms. You mean the son of John? And he told the Thessalonians who that was, but we dont know who that was, and [inaudible 01:06:25] biblical scholars have had many different answers and we dont know much the same this particular truth about whether Mary died or not. Steve may not believe thats what the text says, but if it does say that, theres no contradiction in it saying that. And Steve has not ruled that out. And I truly believe that because youre a nice guy. Dr. Steven Christie, MD is a Diagnostic Radiology Specialist in Miami, FL and has over 28 years of experience in the medical field. . I think a lot of people have this question, both Catholics and Protestants. An interview with Steve Baughman. Thread info Bookmark this thread Trash this thread. However, he should have cited what Jimmy said immediately before that quote: It wasnt entirely clear to every group of Jews exactly what books belonged in the Old Testament., Akin goes on to write that Jesus and the apostles went a bit further than the Pharisees on the issue of the canon. In Super Bowl XXVIII, Christie set a Super Bowl record by kicking a 54-yard field goal. She goes on to say, My spirit rejoices in God, my savior for or because he has regarded the lowest state of his handmaiden. Mary then describes how God saves people from threats in this life by exalting the lowly or feeding the hungry. Is primary meaning of adelphos that you have the same biological mother and father? Well, the Septuagint was a Greek translation that was finished around 134 BC. Gov. But lets have this be the last response to a response, because then Im going to ask Trent to question, then you are going to get to respond to that. He mentioned about the Septuagint. Solo performances by Steve Christie bring all the sound of a live band to your special event. No, thats not the case. When it comes to savior, I would just challenge Steve, where does Luke 1:46 through 48 talk about sin? But again, like it says, they were assumed bodily into heaven, but they had inherited original sin, just as Mary did. Steve Christie Geoffrey Stephen Christie Position: K 6-0 , 195lb (183cm, 88kg) Born: November 13 in Oakville, Ontario (Age: 55-107d) College: William & Mary Weighted Career AV (100-95-. So it is quite shocking. Even a son of Mary would be interesting, rather its the fact that Jesus was referred through a metronym rather than a patronym, that normally in the ancient near east, you would refer to someone as the son of their father, the son of Joseph.. Yet evidence of her sinful nature was her lack of exemption of the temporal penalty of death passed on to her from Adams. The relevance would be that you are using it. And Id like my little mini rebuttal, very quick points, Matt, that is a topic for another debate. So while not common, it is used. And yeah, I would just encourage others, Ive always said this, I dont see debates as a way to end an issue. But My covenant I will establish with Isaac" ( Gen 17:20-21 ). And then Steve, what are some objections you hear from Protestants to Catholics that you dont think are good? If I could just. Okay. The only son? . Okay, so now we are going to move into 10-minute rebuttals. No, he was free from sin, but he still had a mortal human nature that could be subject to death. That children at a young age do not commit personal sins. In the early church, there was a heretical sect called the [Cororidians 01:25:03] and [Epiphanias 01:25:05] condemns them. Ravi Zacharias has long been recognized as one of the most respected of Christian apologists. And then whenever you start speaking, Ill click the time. And again, if he meant only child, he wouldve used monogenes like he used it elsewhere in Lukes gospel. Because I know every one of these points you could go back and forth on a lot, but lets try to keep it to just the main response and then a response to the response. Going forward, then, Mark Sorry, Steve tries to say that Mary committed a sin in Mark Three when she and the brothers of the Lord go to see him, but the text doesnt say anything about Mary doing anything sinful. No, thats fine. I wouldnt assume that that involves a vow virginity, but I think theres a different context in relation to the fact that we have betrothal between Mary and Joseph, that its an odd construction. Just today, Hallow uploaded my Lo-Fi music to their app. Thats why he says theres no distinction among people in verse 22 or in Romans 3:9 Paul says All men, both Jews and Greeks are under the power of sin.. On July 2, 2007, Christie joined the Toronto Argonauts of the Canadian Football League by signing a practice roster agreement with the team. And weve seen that time and time again, and so Im going to address the other examples that hes just raised. Lets see how much we can get through. Sure. So does this mean that James was Zebedees only son? I dont think he could do that. Yeah, no, fair enough. Isaiah 49:26 describes God as savior and Redeemer echoed in Galatians 4:4-5. Like infant baptism, the cessation of charismatic gifts, for example. Of course, that is not what we are debating today. According to Dead Sea scholar Emanuel Tov, There is a special layout for poetical units that is almost exclusive to biblical texts (including Ben Sira) and is not found in any of the nonbiblical poetical compositions from the Judean desert (Textual Criticism of the Hebrew Bible, 102-103). He says in Philippians 3:7 that whatever gain he had as a Pharisee he counted as loss for the sake of Christ. In Galatians 1:13 he calls his Jewish zealotry a former way of life, and in 1 Corinthians 9:20 Paul explicitly says he was not under the Mosaic law, which was a non-negotiable belief for the Pharisees. Okay. There are a lot of great resources at catholic.com. As far as original sin, if you look at catholic.com, the encyclopedia, it states that The Second Council of Orange, it states that, The death of the body, which is the punishment for sin. In other words, sin results in death of the body. Why would that be the case? And again, as a Roman Catholic, I would expect them to because their issue is not about Mary. All right. So even if that dogma is defined ex cathedra by a pope, by an ecumenical council, or by the magisterium, if it contradicts scripture, that dogma must be rejected. Influenced early on by early monasticism, asceticism, and even gnostic-like texts, early Roman Catholics were troubled by how a created sinful fallen creature went on to have other children and could give birth to the sinless Son of God in the flesh. . Professional career [ edit] Early career [ edit] On March 5, 2008 Christie retired from professional football. He graduated from UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI / SCHOOL OF MEDICINE in 1995. When it comes to ancient Jewish authors, Christians shouldnt be con-cerned if they, like most Jews today, didnt believe the deuterocanonical books were Scripture. Its a very beautiful open community and you get free daily podcasts and I think youd really enjoy it. As Trent Horn stated in his debate against Dr. James White, Our theology should come from the Bible, not the Bible from our theology. Thats Sola Scriptura, folks, and I agree with him as did the Apostle Paul and the first century Roman Church. Lets take a look here. 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